{"id":2967,"date":"2024-03-25T11:57:17","date_gmt":"2024-03-25T11:57:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/m0aws.co.uk\/?p=2967"},"modified":"2024-03-25T12:04:14","modified_gmt":"2024-03-25T12:04:14","slug":"more-868mhz-antenna-tests","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/m0aws.co.uk\/?p=2967","title":{"rendered":"More 868Mhz Antenna Tests"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">After initially finding that I couldn&#8217;t tune the 868Mhz ground plane antenna with the radials bent down at 45 degrees I decided to experiment to find out why. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Initially I had the radials connected to the 4 corners of the base of the chassis mount N Type socket. This works great if you have the radials completely horizontal and gives an SWR of 1.1:1 but, with the radials bent down at 45 degrees the best SWR is around 2:1.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2025\" height=\"2700\" src=\"https:\/\/m0aws.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/M0AWS-868Mhz-GP-Ant-Closeup-2025x2700.jpeg\" alt=\"M0AWS 868Mhz Ground Plane Antenna Close Up\" class=\"wp-image-2941\" srcset=\"https:\/\/m0aws.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/M0AWS-868Mhz-GP-Ant-Closeup-2025x2700.jpeg 2025w, https:\/\/m0aws.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/M0AWS-868Mhz-GP-Ant-Closeup-225x300.jpeg 225w, https:\/\/m0aws.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/M0AWS-868Mhz-GP-Ant-Closeup-768x1024.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/m0aws.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/M0AWS-868Mhz-GP-Ant-Closeup-1152x1536.jpeg 1152w, https:\/\/m0aws.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/M0AWS-868Mhz-GP-Ant-Closeup-1536x2048.jpeg 1536w, https:\/\/m0aws.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/M0AWS-868Mhz-GP-Ant-Closeup-scaled.jpeg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">M0AWS 868Mhz Ground Plane Antenna Close Up<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Removing the radials from the base of the N Type chassis socket and soldering them to the outer of the N Type plug at the same level as the feed point for the radiating element I found that an almost perfect SWR can be achieved very easily.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2025\" height=\"2700\" src=\"https:\/\/m0aws.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/M0AWS-686Mhz-Ant-with-45-degree-radials-2025x2700.jpeg\" alt=\"M0AWS 686Mhz Antenna with radials soldered to the N Type Plug\" class=\"wp-image-2970\" srcset=\"https:\/\/m0aws.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/M0AWS-686Mhz-Ant-with-45-degree-radials-2025x2700.jpeg 2025w, https:\/\/m0aws.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/M0AWS-686Mhz-Ant-with-45-degree-radials-225x300.jpeg 225w, https:\/\/m0aws.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/M0AWS-686Mhz-Ant-with-45-degree-radials-768x1024.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/m0aws.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/M0AWS-686Mhz-Ant-with-45-degree-radials-1152x1536.jpeg 1152w, https:\/\/m0aws.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/M0AWS-686Mhz-Ant-with-45-degree-radials-1536x2048.jpeg 1536w, https:\/\/m0aws.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/M0AWS-686Mhz-Ant-with-45-degree-radials-scaled.jpeg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">M0AWS 868Mhz Antenna with radials soldered to the N Type Plug<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It seemed weird to me that such a small change could have such a big effect on the obtainable SWR for the antenna but, as can be seen in the image below with the radials soldered to the N Type plug and bent downwards I immediately got an SWR of 1.07:1 and a  much wider SWR curve.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2048\" height=\"1368\" src=\"https:\/\/m0aws.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/M0AWS-Modified-686Mhz-antenna-2048x1368.jpeg\" alt=\"M0AWS 868Mhz Antenna SWR curve with radials soldered to N Type plug.\" class=\"wp-image-2969\" srcset=\"https:\/\/m0aws.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/M0AWS-Modified-686Mhz-antenna-2048x1368.jpeg 2048w, https:\/\/m0aws.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/M0AWS-Modified-686Mhz-antenna-300x200.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/m0aws.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/M0AWS-Modified-686Mhz-antenna-768x513.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/m0aws.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/M0AWS-Modified-686Mhz-antenna-1536x1026.jpeg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">M0AWS 868Mhz Antenna SWR curve with radials soldered to N Type plug.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">By making my own antennas I&#8217;m learning a lot about antenna design for the 800-900Mhz frequency range. Minor changes seem to have a much bigger impact than they do at much lower frequencies.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">More soon &#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>After initially finding that I couldn&#8217;t tune the 868Mhz ground plane antenna with the radials bent down at 45 degrees I decided to experiment to find out why. Initially I had the radials connected to the 4 corners of the base of the chassis mount N Type socket. This works great if you have the &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/m0aws.co.uk\/?p=2967\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;More 868Mhz Antenna Tests&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[276,225,6,28,294,4,65,224,272,186,130,232,233,17],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2967","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-868mhz","category-analyser","category-antenna","category-antenna-modelling","category-antennadesign","category-ham-radio","category-home-brew","category-jncradio","category-meshtastic","category-nodes","category-qrpp","category-vna","category-vna-3g","category-weak-signals"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/m0aws.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2967","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/m0aws.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/m0aws.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/m0aws.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/m0aws.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=2967"}],"version-history":[{"count":9,"href":"https:\/\/m0aws.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2967\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2979,"href":"https:\/\/m0aws.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2967\/revisions\/2979"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/m0aws.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=2967"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/m0aws.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=2967"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/m0aws.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=2967"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}